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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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MOVING FROM FREEHAND TO ILLUSTRATOR IS NOT POSSIBLE.

ILLUSTRATOR DON'T MANAGE PAGES

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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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> MOVING FROM FREEHAND TO ILLUSTRATOR IS NOT POSSIBLE.


How is that? I've just done it. (Or at least use equally both.)

> ILLUSTRATOR DON'T MANAGE PAGES


No it does not but since FeeHand is very poor in body text handling and it is at best in small documents with a few pages, a lot of graphics and little text, like brochures.

Jukka
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User

> ILLUSTRATOR DON'T MANAGE PAGES


No it does not but since FeeHand is very poor in body text handling and it is
at best in small documents with a few pages, a lot of graphics and little text,
like brochures.

Jukka
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I laid out a 208 page book in FreeHand just fine once. The text handling was
superb with it's style sheets. And master pages worked great. The only thing I
had to do manually was page numbering, which wasn't that bad for only 208
pages. But then just exported it to a pdf and sent to the printer. Worked
perfectly.
I've since moved to InDesign, which is of course better for such things. But
at the time InDesign was only at version 1.5 and was pretty awful to use.
What I don't understand is why Illustrator even has text stylesheets in it?
You don't need them for a 1 page document.


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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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> I laid out a 208 page book in FreeHand just fine once. The text handling was
> superb with it's style sheets. And master pages worked great. The only thing I


I guess you did not do hyphenated justified text? FreeHand can't create good enough body text without a truckload of discretionary hyphens and forced line breaks etc., not to mention it has no widow & orphan control. The totally incorrect default letter spacing values -10/0/10 kinda reflect the quality.

In other words creating good body text in FreeHand requires a lot of manual editing.

Jukka
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User

I guess you did not do hyphenated justified text? FreeHand can't create good
enough body text without a truckload of discretionary hyphens and forced line
breaks etc., not to mention it has no widow & orphan control. The totally
incorrect default letter spacing values -10/0/10 kinda reflect the quality.

In other words creating good body text in FreeHand requires a lot of manual
editing.

Jukka
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Yes, I did all that. Maybe it was the font you were using? If you don't have
any widows or orphans you don't need widow or orphan control, do you?
Regardless, using FH is better than trying to muddle your way through Quark's
clunky interface and faux text styles that don't print correctly. Or any
version of Illustrator prior to CS2, which makes you "update" old Illustrator
text to the new engine because it was so cr*ppy before.

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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
Armadillo
 
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> I guess you did not do hyphenated justified text? FreeHand can't create good
> enough body text without a truckload of discretionary hyphens and forced line


> Yes, I did all that. Maybe it was the font you were using? If you don't have


No, it happens with any font. But I do have high standards for body text. No comparison with the quality InDesign can produce.

Jukka
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:30 AM
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[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User

No, it happens with any font. But I do have high standards for body text. No
comparison with the quality InDesign can produce.

Jukka
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I agree, now, but back then InDesign sucked. Well, all I can say is FH worked
great for me. Always has.

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