hmm, I don't think the gang of four would agree on that Mediator part.
But anyway, that's beside the point. It's probably not about framework but
about an event driven app. And I'm in favor of that, using a framework or not
using a framework.

@Greg - Yes. Was one I started with as well. Also EasyMVC (which changed to
EasyCG if I remember correctly.)

@ LuigiL - I do not know the "gang of four" but would suspect that you are
correct if you mean that the "Mediator" is an integral part of any Cairngorm
design. Point is though, that MVC is not the only "good" design pattern for
Flex applications,

In my last post I said:
It's probably not about framework but about an event driven app. And I'm in
favor of that, using a framework or not using a framework.
So, where exactly did I say that MVC is the only good design pattern? Don't
put words in my mouth, ok?

>>(bear in mind, I've only been doing this for a year)
Amy, from what I have seen... then you have learned a lot! Compliments for that.

@ LuigiL - Sorry. I was not implying that you said "...that MVC is the only
good design pattern..." I was also talking to Greg and addressing my
understanding of the Cairngorm and PureMVC frameworks. And I have been at this
far less time than you and my opinions are "fledgling" at best. ;-)

Perhaps I should shut up now and read more for the time being.

"g-s-b" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> @greg - I have decided to move from an MVC/MVP model to the Presentation
> Model. It "feels" better to me and fits well with the kinds of
> applications I
> would like to develop.
>
> @LuigiL - The presentation model eliminates the need for the mediator.
> The
> mediator in flex is really a hold over from flash developers; flex really
> does
> not need the same development techniques. But there are enough "design
> patterns" to go around, LOL. So whatever fits the goals best is most
> likely
> the best to employ.

That is an advantage of PureMVC, IMO. It's not tied to Flex or even
ActionScript.

"...It's not tied to Flex or even ActionScript...."

Yes. Of course. Design Patterns have been formulating for many years, long
before Flex. Implementations of a Design Pattern into a specific Framework,
try to optimize the implementation targeting a specific development environment
and as such are tightly coupled to that underlying development environment.

"LuigiL" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>>>(bear in mind, I've only been doing this for a year)
> Amy, from what I have seen... then you have learned a lot! Compliments for
> that.

Thanks :-). I think they call it "baptism by fire" ;-). Also known as
"suuure, I can do that."

Good discussion for us lurkers. I've found some good articles chasing references you all provided. Thanks much.