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On Sep 7, 11:11*am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote:
> In article <a5e6050f-b48e-4690-835b-88747f8f1...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups..com>, > > > > > > *Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sep 7, 3:23*am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > In article > > > <9fcda2b4-d56c-4d9e-98a6-20466ee2d...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > *Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Sep 6, 8:48*am, "Steve Carroll" <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > <a01b414c-3c9a-481f-9854-8615ccb87...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > *MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 5, 12:06 pm, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2008-09-05, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <C4E60250.D4210%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>, > > > > > > > > *Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> > > > > > > > >> stated in > > > > > > > >> post > > > > > > > >> 4cg6p5-rdo....@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 9/4/08 6:59 PM: > > > > > > > > >> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Steve Carroll > > > > > > > >> > <trollkil...@TK.com> > > > > > > > >> > *wrote > > > > > > > >> > on Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:25:57 -0700 > > > > > > > >> > <g9puam$2t...@registered.motzarella.org>: > > > > > > > >> >> "iMojo" <iadvoc...@macs.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > >> >>news:iadvocate-E1592C.20225104092008@news.videotron.ca > > > > > > > >> >>> In article > > > > > > > >> >>> <b5b72279-4a28-4065-ab8b-324593bac...@b2g2000prf.googlegroups > > > > > > > >> >>> .com > > > > > > > >> >>> >, > > > > > > > >> >>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Sarah Palin: "Some people use "Change" to advance their > > > > > > > >> >>>> careers. > > > > > > > >> >>>> Some > > > > > > > >> >>>> people use their careers to advance "Change" on Obama's > > > > > > > >> >>>> broken > > > > > > > >> >>>> record > > > > > > > >> >>>> empty promises Change rhetoric. > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Fuck that socialist, muslim, American hating, puppet > > > > > > > >> >>>> monkey. > > > > > > > > >> >>> So if McCoke kicks the bucket (the guy is so fucking old > > > > > > > >> >>> he's > > > > > > > >> >>> never > > > > > > > >> >>> even used the internet and can't remember how many houses he > > > > > > > >> >>> owns), > > > > > > > >> >>> a > > > > > > > >> >>> hockey mom is going to rule the free-world? > > > > > > > > >> > Correct, but she's not only a hockey-mom; she's also > > > > > > > >> > the current governor of the state of Alaska, and that > > > > > > > >> > does require some organizational skills (though maybe > > > > > > > >> > not as much as, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger might require > > > > > > > >> > in governing California, a state with 36M people and a > > > > > > > >> > $1.7T economy). > > > > > > > > >> According to Karl Rove, though, it is not a big deal to bea > > > > > > > >> governor > > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > > >> a > > > > > > > >> relatively small city... well, unless you are Sarah Palin. > > > > > > > > >> <http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...oId=184086&tit > > > > > > > >> le=s > > > > > > > >> a... > > > > > > > >> lin-gender-card> > > > > > > > > >> Watch the whole thing... it is hilarious. > > > > > > > > >> Frankly for McCain to pick her after going after Obama fornot > > > > > > > >> being > > > > > > > >> experienced is absurd. *Clearly she has no real experience > > > > > > > > > Yet, she has more executive experience than Biden and Obama > > > > > > > > combined. > > > > > > > > Oops! > > > > > > > > * * *The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48has more > > > > > > > executive experience than this governor. > > > > > > > On Obama, The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 has more > > > > > > *executive experience than this Senator. > > > > > > I could be mistaken but believe that the only "executive experience" > > > > > Obama > > > > > has > > > > > is when he served with Ayers. > > > > > You are mistaken. > > > > > Obama has devised and coordinated the most effective internet-centred > > > > fundraising and advocacy campaign in history managing tens of > > > > thousands of volunteers and beaqting back the heir apparent to the > > > > Democratic throne in the teteh of massive resistance to a non-white > > > > and liberal candidate in the US. He outfundraised all the other > > > > candidates combined. > > > > Specifically, in what executive capacity? > > > You do know what the word "executive" means, don't you? > > Yes, I do. Can you answer my question now? Or do you not know what the word > "capacity" means? <sigh> 'capacity' in the above context means 'role'. He held executive authority (i.e he made the decisions) for the Obama campaign. That campaign has achived its first objective -- to secure the nomination of the Democratic Party for the presidency. So his executive skills in a major undertaking have been proved successful so far -- more successful than those like Clinton who had a massive head start in cash and networks. Now Hillary is in debt and he is continuing to raise more money. Money talks and bulls**t walks, as they say. Nobody has the 'boots on the ground' that he has, and nobody before who was non-white has before been a serious chance of becoming President, which shows that he has been able to overcome historic challenges. His victory in 95% white Iowa was testimony to his competence. What has Palin done to compare with that? I recall she ran a car wash that couldn't keep up with its paperwork and took over a dairy (Matanuska Maid) and presided over it going broke and costing the taxpayers of Alaska about $20 million. Admittedly, the assets carve up favoured some of her friends like Ted Stevens, so it wasn't a total loss. Fran |
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In article <4e8b62ac-8d6c-496b-b320-00327751f9dd@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>,
Fran <Fran.Beta@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 7, 11:11*am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > In article > > <a5e6050f-b48e-4690-835b-88747f8f1...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > *Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 3:23*am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <9fcda2b4-d56c-4d9e-98a6-20466ee2d...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > *Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 6, 8:48*am, "Steve Carroll" <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <a01b414c-3c9a-481f-9854-8615ccb87...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > *MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 12:06 pm, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2008-09-05, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <C4E60250.D4210%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>, > > > > > > > > > *Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> > > > > > > > > >> stated in > > > > > > > > >> post > > > > > > > > >> 4cg6p5-rdo....@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 9/4/08 6:59 PM: > > > > > > > > > > >> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Steve Carroll > > > > > > > > >> > <trollkil...@TK.com> > > > > > > > > >> > *wrote > > > > > > > > >> > on Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:25:57 -0700 > > > > > > > > >> > <g9puam$2t...@registered.motzarella.org>: > > > > > > > > >> >> "iMojo" <iadvoc...@macs.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >> >>news:iadvocate-E1592C.20225104092008@news.videotron.ca > > > > > > > > >> >>> In article > > > > > > > > >> >>> <b5b72279-4a28-4065-ab8b-324593bac...@b2g2000prf.googlegr > > > > > > > > >> >>> oups > > > > > > > > >> >>> .com > > > > > > > > >> >>> >, > > > > > > > > >> >>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Sarah Palin: "Some people use "Change" to advance their > > > > > > > > >> >>>> careers. > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Some > > > > > > > > >> >>>> people use their careers to advance "Change" on Obama's > > > > > > > > >> >>>> broken > > > > > > > > >> >>>> record > > > > > > > > >> >>>> empty promises Change rhetoric. > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Fuck that socialist, muslim, American hating, puppet > > > > > > > > >> >>>> monkey. > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> So if McCoke kicks the bucket (the guy is so fucking old > > > > > > > > >> >>> he's > > > > > > > > >> >>> never > > > > > > > > >> >>> even used the internet and can't remember how many > > > > > > > > >> >>> houses he > > > > > > > > >> >>> owns), > > > > > > > > >> >>> a > > > > > > > > >> >>> hockey mom is going to rule the free-world? > > > > > > > > > > >> > Correct, but she's not only a hockey-mom; she's also > > > > > > > > >> > the current governor of the state of Alaska, and that > > > > > > > > >> > does require some organizational skills (though maybe > > > > > > > > >> > not as much as, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger might require > > > > > > > > >> > in governing California, a state with 36M people and a > > > > > > > > >> > $1.7T economy). > > > > > > > > > > >> According to Karl Rove, though, it is not a big deal to be a > > > > > > > > >> governor > > > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > > > >> a > > > > > > > > >> relatively small city... well, unless you are Sarah Palin. > > > > > > > > > > >> <http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...videoId=184086 > > > > > > > > >> &tit > > > > > > > > >> le=s > > > > > > > > >> a... > > > > > > > > >> lin-gender-card> > > > > > > > > > > >> Watch the whole thing... it is hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > >> Frankly for McCain to pick her after going after Obama for > > > > > > > > >> not > > > > > > > > >> being > > > > > > > > >> experienced is absurd. *Clearly she has no real experience > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, she has more executive experience than Biden and Obama > > > > > > > > > combined. > > > > > > > > > Oops! > > > > > > > > > > * * *The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 has > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > executive experience than this governor. > > > > > > > > > On Obama, The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 has > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > *executive experience than this Senator. > > > > > > > > I could be mistaken but believe that the only "executive > > > > > > experience" > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > has > > > > > > is when he served with Ayers. > > > > > > > You are mistaken. > > > > > > > Obama has devised and coordinated the most effective internet-centred > > > > > fundraising and advocacy campaign in history managing tens of > > > > > thousands of volunteers and beaqting back the heir apparent to the > > > > > Democratic throne in the teteh of massive resistance to a non-white > > > > > and liberal candidate in the US. He outfundraised all the other > > > > > candidates combined. > > > > > > Specifically, in what executive capacity? > > > > > You do know what the word "executive" means, don't you? > > > > Yes, I do. Can you answer my question now? Or do you not know what the word > > "capacity" means? > > <sigh> > > 'capacity' in the above context means 'role'. Got it ![]() -- "Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much just throw it away". - Snit |
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<4e8b62ac-8d6c-496b-b320-00327751f9dd@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>, Fran <Fran.Beta@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 7, 11:11 am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > In article > > <a5e6050f-b48e-4690-835b-88747f8f1...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 3:23 am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <9fcda2b4-d56c-4d9e-98a6-20466ee2d...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 6, 8:48 am, "Steve Carroll" <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <a01b414c-3c9a-481f-9854-8615ccb87...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 5, 12:06 pm, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2008-09-05, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <C4E60250.D4210%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>, > > > > > > > > > Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> "The Ghost In The Machine" > > > > > > > > >> <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> > > > > > > > > >> stated in > > > > > > > > >> post > > > > > > > > >> 4cg6p5-rdo....@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 9/4/08 6:59 PM: > > > > > > > > > > >> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Steve Carroll > > > > > > > > >> > <trollkil...@TK.com> > > > > > > > > >> > wrote > > > > > > > > >> > on Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:25:57 -0700 > > > > > > > > >> > <g9puam$2t...@registered.motzarella.org>: > > > > > > > > >> >> "iMojo" <iadvoc...@macs.net> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >> >>news:iadvocate-E1592C.20225104092008@news.videotron.ca > > > > > > > > >> >>> In article > > > > > > > > >> >>> <b5b72279-4a28-4065-ab8b-324593bac...@b2g2000prf.googlegr > > > > > > > > >> >>> oups > > > > > > > > >> >>> .com > > > > > > > > >> >>> >, > > > > > > > > >> >>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Sarah Palin: "Some people use "Change" to advance > > > > > > > > >> >>>> their > > > > > > > > >> >>>> careers. > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Some > > > > > > > > >> >>>> people use their careers to advance "Change" on > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Obama's > > > > > > > > >> >>>> broken > > > > > > > > >> >>>> record > > > > > > > > >> >>>> empty promises Change rhetoric. > > > > > > > > > > >> >>>> Fuck that socialist, muslim, American hating, puppet > > > > > > > > >> >>>> monkey. > > > > > > > > > > >> >>> So if McCoke kicks the bucket (the guy is so fucking > > > > > > > > >> >>> old > > > > > > > > >> >>> he's > > > > > > > > >> >>> never > > > > > > > > >> >>> even used the internet and can't remember how many > > > > > > > > >> >>> houses he > > > > > > > > >> >>> owns), > > > > > > > > >> >>> a > > > > > > > > >> >>> hockey mom is going to rule the free-world? > > > > > > > > > > >> > Correct, but she's not only a hockey-mom; she's also > > > > > > > > >> > the current governor of the state of Alaska, and that > > > > > > > > >> > does require some organizational skills (though maybe > > > > > > > > >> > not as much as, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger might > > > > > > > > >> > require > > > > > > > > >> > in governing California, a state with 36M people and a > > > > > > > > >> > $1.7T economy). > > > > > > > > > > >> According to Karl Rove, though, it is not a big deal to > > > > > > > > >> be a > > > > > > > > >> governor > > > > > > > > >> of > > > > > > > > >> a > > > > > > > > >> relatively small city... well, unless you are Sarah > > > > > > > > >> Palin. > > > > > > > > > > >> <http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...videoId=184086 > > > > > > > > >> &tit > > > > > > > > >> le=s > > > > > > > > >> a... > > > > > > > > >> lin-gender-card> > > > > > > > > > > >> Watch the whole thing... it is hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > >> Frankly for McCain to pick her after going after Obama > > > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > > > >> not > > > > > > > > >> being > > > > > > > > >> experienced is absurd. Clearly she has no real > > > > > > > > >> experience > > > > > > > > > > > Yet, she has more executive experience than Biden and > > > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > combined. > > > > > > > > > Oops! > > > > > > > > > > The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 has > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > executive experience than this governor. > > > > > > > > > On Obama, The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > executive experience than this Senator. > > > > > > > > I could be mistaken but believe that the only "executive > > > > > > experience" > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > has > > > > > > is when he served with Ayers. > > > > > > > You are mistaken. > > > > > > > Obama has devised and coordinated the most effective > > > > > internet-centred > > > > > fundraising and advocacy campaign in history managing tens of > > > > > thousands of volunteers and beaqting back the heir apparent to the > > > > > Democratic throne in the teteh of massive resistance to a > > > > > non-white > > > > > and liberal candidate in the US. He outfundraised all the other > > > > > candidates combined. > > > > > > Specifically, in what executive capacity? > > > > > You do know what the word "executive" means, don't you? > > > > Yes, I do. Can you answer my question now? Or do you not know what the > > word > > "capacity" means? > > <sigh> > > 'capacity' in the above context means 'role'. Got it ![]() -- "Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much just throw it away". - Snit |
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"Steve Carroll" <trollkiller@TK.com> wrote in message
news:trollkiller-DE9E12.17044207092008@newsgroups.comcast.net > In article > <4e8b62ac-8d6c-496b-b320-00327751f9dd@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com>, > Fran <Fran.Beta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sep 7, 11:11 am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: >>> In article >>> <a5e6050f-b48e-4690-835b-88747f8f1...@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Sep 7, 3:23 am, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <9fcda2b4-d56c-4d9e-98a6-20466ee2d...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, >>> >>>>> Fran <Fran.B...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sep 6, 8:48 am, "Steve Carroll" <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <a01b414c-3c9a-481f-9854-8615ccb87...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, >>> >>>>>>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 12:06 pm, JEDIDIAH <j...@nomad.mishnet> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2008-09-05, Steve Carroll <trollkil...@TK.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>> In article <C4E60250.D4210%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>, >>>>>>>>>> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> >>>>>>>>>>> stated in >>>>>>>>>>> post >>>>>>>>>>> 4cg6p5-rdo....@sirius.tg00suus7038.net on 9/4/08 6:59 PM: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Steve Carroll >>>>>>>>>>>> <trollkil...@TK.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> on Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:25:57 -0700 >>>>>>>>>>>> <g9puam$2t...@registered.motzarella.org>: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "iMojo" <iadvoc...@macs.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:iadvocate-E1592C.20225104092008@news.videotron.ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <b5b72279-4a28-4065-ab8b-324593bac...@b2g2000prf.googlegr >>>>>>>>>>>>>> oups >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MuahMan <muah...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sarah Palin: "Some people use "Change" to advance their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> careers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people use their careers to advance "Change" on Obama's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empty promises Change rhetoric. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuck that socialist, muslim, American hating, puppet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey. >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if McCoke kicks the bucket (the guy is so fucking old >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even used the internet and can't remember how many >>>>>>>>>>>>>> houses he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owns), >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hockey mom is going to rule the free-world? >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Correct, but she's not only a hockey-mom; she's also >>>>>>>>>>>> the current governor of the state of Alaska, and that >>>>>>>>>>>> does require some organizational skills (though maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> not as much as, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger might require >>>>>>>>>>>> in governing California, a state with 36M people and a >>>>>>>>>>>> $1.7T economy). >>> >>>>>>>>>>> According to Karl Rove, though, it is not a big deal to be a >>>>>>>>>>> governor >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> relatively small city... well, unless you are Sarah Palin. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...videoId=184086 >>>>>>>>>>> &tit >>>>>>>>>>> le=s >>>>>>>>>>> a... >>>>>>>>>>> lin-gender-card> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Watch the whole thing... it is hilarious. >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Frankly for McCain to pick her after going after Obama for >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>> experienced is absurd. Clearly she has no real experience >>> >>>>>>>>>> Yet, she has more executive experience than Biden and Obama >>>>>>>>>> combined. >>>>>>>>>> Oops! >>> >>>>>>>>> The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 has >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> executive experience than this governor. >>> >>>>>>>> On Obama, The mayor of any decent sized city in the lower 48 >>>>>>>> has more >>>>>>>> executive experience than this Senator. >>> >>>>>>> I could be mistaken but believe that the only "executive >>>>>>> experience" >>>>>>> Obama >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> is when he served with Ayers. >>> >>>>>> You are mistaken. >>> >>>>>> Obama has devised and coordinated the most effective >>>>>> internet-centred fundraising and advocacy campaign in history >>>>>> managing tens of thousands of volunteers and beaqting back the >>>>>> heir apparent to the Democratic throne in the teteh of massive >>>>>> resistance to a non-white and liberal candidate in the US. He >>>>>> outfundraised all the other candidates combined. >>> >>>>> Specifically, in what executive capacity? >>> >>>> You do know what the word "executive" means, don't you? >>> >>> Yes, I do. Can you answer my question now? Or do you not know what >>> the word "capacity" means? >> >> <sigh> >> >> 'capacity' in the above context means 'role'. > > Got it ![]() Please stop forging my posts as you beg for my attention, Snit. Thanks! -- "Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much just throw it away". - Snit |
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