Murray:

I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have the
"strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background.... you
have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
"kind-of-cyan" color....

That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan" color
and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image in
the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of the
scree... how to achieve it ?

thanks...

> same as this ADOBE website

Only webforum users see that.

> you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?

Look at and analyze the code for the page. Unless you can understand the
code for that page when you look at it, you won't be able to understand my
instructions or recreate it for yourself.

> I need it to be the WHOLE background

It *is* the whole background. You only see a strip because I used your
code, and your code has the page's content in a flexible container that sits
above the background. When the page flexes to fill the browser viewport, the
only parts of the background image you see are those that fall within the
body tag's default top/right/bottom/left margin, which you left unspecified
in your CSS.

> and the biggest part of the page has the "kind-of-cyan" color....

That's your code, not mine.

> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully.

Boy - you are really not thinking about this. You should be able to do that
in an instant.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"Sw Jiten" <jiten@elmochilero.com> wrote in message
news:g79vit$28$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Murray:
>
> I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have
> the
> "strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background....
> you
> have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
> "kind-of-cyan" color....
>
> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image
> in
> the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?
>
> thanks...
>

Dear Murray :

1) I can not enter the link you sent me.. I do not know why... I even tried :
www.murraytestsite.com and nothing...

2) You said you neither approve parts of my code... I will appreciate to know
what parts...? This ia s great opportunity for me to learn from a big one like
you, so please do not dissapoint me and show me how to optimize some parts that
you might consider... thanks !!!

Dear Murray :

1) I can not enter the link you sent me.. I do not know why... I even tried :
www.murraytestsite.com and nothing...

2) You said you neither approve parts of my code... I will appreciate to know
what parts...? This ia s great opportunity for me to learn from a big one like
you, so please do not dissapoint me and show me how to optimize some parts that
you might consider... thanks !!!

On 31 Jul 2008 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Sw Jiten wrote:

> Dear Murray :
>
> 1) I can not enter the link you sent me.. I do not know why... I
> even tried :
> www.murraytestsite.com and nothing...

Works fine here.

> 2) You said you neither approve parts of my code... I will
> appreciate to know
> what parts...? This ia s great opportunity for me to learn from a
> big one like you, so please do not dissapoint me and show me how to
> optimize some parts that you might consider... thanks !!!

..style15 {font-size: 10px}
</style>
<!--Fireworks 8 Dreamweaver 8 target. Created Sat Apr 12 00:55:50 GMT-0500 2008-->
</head>
<body bgcolor="#74acc7">
<table width="779" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<!-- fwtable fwsrc="websitetemplate.png" fwbase="websitetemplate.gif" fwstyle="Dreamweaver" fwdocid = "1112975483" fwnested="0" -->
<tr>
<td><img src="img/spacer.gif" width="20" height="1" border="0" alt="" /></td>
<td><img src="img/spacer.gif" width="9" height="1" border="0" alt="" /></td>
<snip>
<div id="flashheader">
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var so = new SWFObject("header.swf", "movie", "557", "87", "8", "#74ACC7");
so.write("flashheader");
</script>
<snip>
<td rowspan="5" colspan="7">

Murray's being way too nice. Where to begin?

See the style above? Note that it says 'style15' - it means that
you're using DW's properties bar to create a whole bunch of separate
little CSS styles. They're tough to keep track of, and you wind up
with a bunch of them scattered through your code. Think through your
CSS, create your classes in your (external) stylesheet, and apply them
as necessary.

You used Fireworks to export HTML code. Fireworks creates notoriously
fragile HTML. That's the reason for the line of spacer .gifs.
They're totally unnecessary and bloat your code with no need. That's
also the reason for having a rowspan and a colspan on the td. I
wouldn't even attempt to try to sort something like that out.

You used Flash for navigation. That doesn't work for people using
assistive devices to visit your site, it doesn't work for people who
don't have Flash, and probably more important, it doesn't work for
search engines.

You use an iframe on the page. That creates an internal scrollbar.
This one is arguable, but many of us consider internal scrollbars to
be a detriment to usability.

In my opinion - your best bet? Start over. Take your fireworks comp,
slice it up, and use the slices as parts to a page you create using
one of DW's built-in sample pages.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/contact.php

On 31 Jul 2008 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Sw Jiten wrote:

> Dear Murray :
>
> 1) I can not enter the link you sent me.. I do not know why... I
> even tried :
> www.murraytestsite.com and nothing...

Works fine here.

> 2) You said you neither approve parts of my code... I will
> appreciate to know
> what parts...? This ia s great opportunity for me to learn from a
> big one like you, so please do not dissapoint me and show me how to
> optimize some parts that you might consider... thanks !!!

..style15 {font-size: 10px}
</style>
<!--Fireworks 8 Dreamweaver 8 target. Created Sat Apr 12 00:55:50 GMT-0500 2008-->
</head>
<body bgcolor="#74acc7">
<table width="779" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<!-- fwtable fwsrc="websitetemplate.png" fwbase="websitetemplate.gif" fwstyle="Dreamweaver" fwdocid = "1112975483" fwnested="0" -->
<tr>
<td><img src="img/spacer.gif" width="20" height="1" border="0" alt="" /></td>
<td><img src="img/spacer.gif" width="9" height="1" border="0" alt="" /></td>
<snip>
<div id="flashheader">
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var so = new SWFObject("header.swf", "movie", "557", "87", "8", "#74ACC7");
so.write("flashheader");
</script>
<snip>
<td rowspan="5" colspan="7">

Murray's being way too nice. Where to begin?

See the style above? Note that it says 'style15' - it means that
you're using DW's properties bar to create a whole bunch of separate
little CSS styles. They're tough to keep track of, and you wind up
with a bunch of them scattered through your code. Think through your
CSS, create your classes in your (external) stylesheet, and apply them
as necessary.

You used Fireworks to export HTML code. Fireworks creates notoriously
fragile HTML. That's the reason for the line of spacer .gifs.
They're totally unnecessary and bloat your code with no need. That's
also the reason for having a rowspan and a colspan on the td. I
wouldn't even attempt to try to sort something like that out.

You used Flash for navigation. That doesn't work for people using
assistive devices to visit your site, it doesn't work for people who
don't have Flash, and probably more important, it doesn't work for
search engines.

You use an iframe on the page. That creates an internal scrollbar.
This one is arguable, but many of us consider internal scrollbars to
be a detriment to usability.

In my opinion - your best bet? Start over. Take your fireworks comp,
slice it up, and use the slices as parts to a page you create using
one of DW's built-in sample pages.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/contact.php

Murray:

I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have the
"strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background.... you
have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
"kind-of-cyan" color....

That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan" color
and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image in
the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of the
scree... how to achieve it ?

thanks...

> same as this ADOBE website

Only webforum users see that.

> you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?

Look at and analyze the code for the page. Unless you can understand the
code for that page when you look at it, you won't be able to understand my
instructions or recreate it for yourself.

> I need it to be the WHOLE background

It *is* the whole background. You only see a strip because I used your
code, and your code has the page's content in a flexible container that sits
above the background. When the page flexes to fill the browser viewport, the
only parts of the background image you see are those that fall within the
body tag's default top/right/bottom/left margin, which you left unspecified
in your CSS.

> and the biggest part of the page has the "kind-of-cyan" color....

That's your code, not mine.

> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully.

Boy - you are really not thinking about this. You should be able to do that
in an instant.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
==================


"Sw Jiten" <jiten@elmochilero.com> wrote in message
news:g79vit$28$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Murray:
>
> I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have
> the
> "strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background....
> you
> have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
> "kind-of-cyan" color....
>
> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image
> in
> the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?
>
> thanks...
>

Murray:

I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have the
"strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background.... you
have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
"kind-of-cyan" color....

That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan" color
and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image in
the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of the
scree... how to achieve it ?

thanks...

> same as this ADOBE website

Only webforum users see that.

> you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?

Look at and analyze the code for the page. Unless you can understand the
code for that page when you look at it, you won't be able to understand my
instructions or recreate it for yourself.

> I need it to be the WHOLE background

It *is* the whole background. You only see a strip because I used your
code, and your code has the page's content in a flexible container that sits
above the background. When the page flexes to fill the browser viewport, the
only parts of the background image you see are those that fall within the
body tag's default top/right/bottom/left margin, which you left unspecified
in your CSS.

> and the biggest part of the page has the "kind-of-cyan" color....

That's your code, not mine.

> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully.

Boy - you are really not thinking about this. You should be able to do that
in an instant.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
==================


"Sw Jiten" <jiten@elmochilero.com> wrote in message
news:g79vit$28$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Murray:
>
> I could enter the example you wrote, however I can see, although you have
> the
> "strip.png" as the background, I need it to be the WHOLE background....
> you
> have only the borders with that, and the biggest part of the page has the
> "kind-of-cyan" color....
>
> That's exactly my point... I want to dissapear all that "kind-of-cyan"
> color
> and have the strip.png fully. Besides it, I want to keep the yellow image
> in
> the corner.... I just wonder... same as this ADOBE website : you have a
> colorful background, and also you have a "search bar" on the top right of
> the
> scree... how to achieve it ?
>
> thanks...
>